An offer has been extended to our club again this year to provide 30 marshals for the Tour of Waikanae on Sunday 14th October. After discussions at the committee, we decided we should bring this to the club prior to making a commitment one way or the other. This has been our single biggest fund-raising opportunity for the club each year but for the past couple of years it's been difficult for us to get the numbers in order to support one of our only two local fun rides.
We're not asking you to commit, or put names forward at this stage, all we are asking is for you to consider if you think this is something the club should do, and if so then understand that there will be an expectation that members either marshal yourself or provide someone in your place who can.
On the positive side, it is a really easy job. All that's needed is for the marshal to be 18 or over (new requirement) and that they be attentive to what's happening around for about the 6 hours the event takes. Marshals will be provided with food and drink, and this year (assuming we choose to take on the marshalling) we'll be bringing back the post event BBQ!
So what's it to be? Can we come up with 30 marshals again this year, or do we all want to ride it?
Please put comments below - and don't forget to name them :-)
Comment by GUEST on 2012-06-27 18:13:03
Comment by GUEST on 2012-06-30 06:55:11
After marshalling for the last couple of years, I have to admit, it would be nice to ride the TOW without feeling guilty about it.
Comment by GUEST on 2012-06-26 09:13:04
Weren't there a few committee places left unfilled at the AGM? Just a shame that people who know how to run the club prefer anonymous website contributions to taking a lead on the committee itself.
Comment by GUEST on 2012-06-26 13:43:32
While I’m not an active member of the KCC at the moment it does seem to me that other clubs/organizations might well be better resourced to contribute to the TOW and perhaps the event organizers would have more luck tendering out the marshalling, i.e Lions and Rotary.
That still leaves the question of fundraising, though a little hard to quantify without knowing a ball-park figure of what the club needs to raise each year. David raises a good point: If not the TOW then what? Maybe the “club” (and I’m using the term collectively) needs to investigate what other avenues could be used to raise funds, such as movie screenings, dinners, or other activity’s that club members would actually like to attend and/or wouldn’t mind paying for.
Comment by GUEST on 2012-06-25 15:36:45
let me see $2000 divide by 30 people =66.66 dollars per person ,easy money
Comment by GUEST on 2012-06-25 11:37:07
does a conflict of interest exist between both the kcc and tow being organised by the same people?
it seems that a reduced fee to the kcc is additional profits to the tow organisers. just a shame that these people are also kcc members, and president.
Comment by GUEST on 2012-06-22 15:25:36
Hi - posted a comment last night but it didn't come up.
Last year we received $1.5k. This year we are being offered $2k. That equates to about $30 per member
Comment by GUEST on 2012-06-22 15:22:30
Plenty of us would like to ride this event and are happy to pay extra for the privilege. But, does the extra we are collectively prepared to pay match what it will cost to replace us? We need to know what it would cost to employ, say, the Rotary Club to provide 20 marshals? I am assuming not all club members actually want to ride.
Comment by GUEST on 2012-06-21 22:02:38
Trouble is Matt without knowing how much money we lose it's very hard to answer.
I want to ride without feeling bad that the same few nice people give up their time each year, so I guess I would be willing to pay more in subs, but that depends on how much more.
Comment by GUEST on 2012-06-21 23:07:00
I am reading all these story's about getting marshall's for the event's and about feedback from people regarding what the club is doing.
There are a few things I like to say.
If people want to speak they have all the options they can get.
We have a PO box, Email,AGM, phone to committee members, it's all there.
We all have a opinion, just tell it to us. if you don't want your name on the club site, fine, then write a letter or send a email to us, but say what you all want, instead of waiting till the last moment, because that's wrong.
Do more we now about our members, the more we can do to make something happen for all of us.
Believe me, we have big disscusions at the committee.
And Yes we need marshall's, .
Thanks, André Hendriks
Comment by GUEST on 2012-06-21 00:35:03
Thanks Matt - although I haven't seen the figures yet I personally would like to pay an additional sub and give everyone the opportunity to ride. This is only one of two rides held in our own district. The course is such that our friends and family can either ride with us or come out and watch us do what we enjoy doing without having to travel up hills or long distances - and they get to watch us go past more than once. From a personal perspective this is important to me as my young children often wonder what I get up to when I disappear for hours on end on my bike. I suggest most of the club would prefer to ride in this ride in our own patch if they can.
I also think that previous years (and both the summer + winter series races) have shown that regardless of the good intentions people have it will be difficult to get names on paper closer to the event. For right or for wrong this is the reality - it might be time to accept this (however frustrating it is) and find alternatives. An increase to the subs is the most obvious - but this is of course hard to qualify as we don't know if an increase will prevent some members from renewing their membership.
As far as a lack of feedback is concerned I suspect the compulsory naming is an issue. While I agree contributors should front up with their name I would be interested in the feedback received if this was relaxed - it may be worth it to get a better indication of the general mood of the membership - on the proviso any inappropriate or offensive posts would be removed.
I'm sure I will be frowned upon by some but I will be riding the TOW for the first time this year. My ability suits this course rather than the hills and I want to ride in a fun ride in my back yard with my friends and family with me. It might be fun to line up on the start line with a big group of riders in the KCC strip. You never know, this might encourage others to join the club?
Comment by GUEST on 2012-06-20 20:31:12
If I get a chance to ride I would ride and much rather pay a extra sub , 30 plus riders standing on corners wishing that they were riding in there local event and the event organizers would have 30 plus more entry fees
Comment by GUEST on 2012-06-20 10:52:21
Count me in.
Comment by GUEST on 2012-06-20 08:44:57
I chose not to put the dollar figures and club numbers, etc on here as it could be considered sensitive information, however it is not hidden. I'll get in contact with you privately to confirm this detail tonight.
The same is open to any other members, our books are not closed, you are welcome to ask any of these details and we'll happily provide them.
Comment by GUEST on 2012-06-19 23:22:56
This is probably widely known already, but for my benefit can you tell me how much the club earns from this fundraiser? I'd also be interested to know what the current membership numbers are. It would be interesting to measure what membership fee increase would be required to cover the amount that would be lost if the club dose not use the TOW to raise funds.
Comment by matto on 2012-06-19 19:42:56
It's interesting to see that no-one seems to be against the idea of us doing the marshaling (so far). I was expecting there would be quite a bit more discussion in this thread than there has been.
Come one folks, you wanted to be more involved, the committee has brought this to the members to aid in any decision. Make your view known! ~Matt
Comment by GUEST on 2012-06-19 15:49:38
Sorry Stephen I quite agree that you should have the courage of your convictions and sign your name. I just wonder if this is holding people back.
If it is not this I would like to know what is making members so shy.
Comment by GUEST on 2012-06-19 10:57:18
Please include me in the list to help with marshalling.
It would be a real shame if we let this oportunity to boost the clubs funds pass.
As regards comments, I feel that if one wants to make a comment then you should be prepared to put your name to it.
Comment by GUEST on 2012-06-17 20:22:21
Matt, the response to the number of hits is unfortunately the same sort of reality you can probably expect once you ask for marshals.
That said probably 20 of the hits are from me out of curiosity as to what members actually think.
Yes it is alot of money and it gets our fundraising over and done with. However from my experience it gets more and more difficult to find the 30 willing bodies each year.
Typically some members end up helping each year while others never offer to help. Members who marshaled the previous year often feel that they have had their turn and the job should be shared around.
This scenario makes increasing the subs a fairer option for all concerned.
Previous years we have only just got to 30 with the help of several of us dragging our sons and daughters along to help. All of whom have been under 18.
If we accept the offer I will help.
The lack of response should not be seen by the committee as an endorsement to go ahead with this.
I fear members have their opinions but are reluctant to post them when they have to add their name.
A poll might work if only you could make sure each member votes once.
Can anybody come up with other fundraising options?
I will keep checking to see what others think.
Comment by GUEST on 2012-06-16 21:06:21
I think we have to do it. Fund raising opportunities are hard to come by. Count me in for the second year in a row.
Comment by GUEST on 2012-06-16 18:59:11
Wow, 126 page views and not a single comment yet. I guess I will start.
We need to decide if we are going to marshal this. If we do then we give up a days riding (or find someone else) and the club gets a fair bit of funds. If we don't then we could reasonably expect that the next years fee's will have to increase to cover the shortfall.
Personally I think we should, and I for one am willing to commit to marshal it for a 3rd year in a row. This is a fantastic event for our local region, and I wonder who can fill the marshaling needs if we cant.
Comment by stephens on 2012-07-12 08:52:33
Not sure if everyone knows that the T.O.W. date has been changed to the 21st October 2012.
Also many thanks to the current organisers for taking on the event following the demise (if I understand correctly) of Sport Kapiti.